tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8679256753829822948.post664299757417992940..comments2024-03-27T23:36:01.433+01:00Comments on Terminal Sound Nuisance: California Screamin' (part 2): Subtle Oppression / Atrocity / Clark Kent "Their Eyes don't Lie" split Ep, 1984The Earslaughterershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02212895653381929613noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8679256753829822948.post-53933563079139564562023-11-08T20:12:36.084+01:002023-11-08T20:12:36.084+01:00Thanks for the details. I did not know the Polluti...Thanks for the details. I did not know the Pollution Circus Ep and it is quite unique for the time (I don't know any other political punk band sounding like this at the time anyway). The Earslaughterershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02212895653381929613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8679256753829822948.post-32185379750976202402023-10-22T14:49:57.267+02:002023-10-22T14:49:57.267+02:00MJB were my favorite of the early bay area Anarcho...MJB were my favorite of the early bay area Anarcho punk bands. Sleeping Dogs weren't mentioned either. Charlie, Dirty Dog was a good friend when he was in SF. I loved Atrocity, their first bass Player, Ian, lives here in Amsterdam. She left the band very early and moved over to the Netherlands. I was in a Sacramento based Anarcho Punk band, Pollution Circus, though I never used the pacifist label, pro peace surely but we were not pacifists. I was quite outspoken in my views and support and promotion of animal issues veganism and revolutionary resistance struggles. The Peyote Tribe played with us often, once at Gilman, they were refugees from El Salvador that played traditional music and read Che Guevara over it. I got here as I was just reading about an event in the SF library of women in the early bay area punk scene. That brought me to this article. I was very involved in Animal Activism at this time. I forget the old name but Subtle Oppression had another name and it was changed right before "Their Eyes Don't Lie" came out. My memory is not what it used to be and for the life of me can't remember. There was a little note in the ep when it came out that stated the name change. @oddveganAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8679256753829822948.post-84248541242960301282019-11-09T20:18:12.783+01:002019-11-09T20:18:12.783+01:00hey Kevin, I am Billy Jagen, I played bass in your...hey Kevin, I am Billy Jagen, I played bass in your band Subtle oppression I would love to buy a copy of your book when it is done some of my fondest memories were of those early years in the DC peace punk scene, I always wanted to thank you for giving me that chance to be a part of something special in my youth. William jagenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10392694992955578936noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8679256753829822948.post-58854881408225630072019-01-04T13:04:47.616+01:002019-01-04T13:04:47.616+01:00Hey Sean. A zine about the peacepunk scene would b...Hey Sean. A zine about the peacepunk scene would be amazing indeed as it is sadly little documented. As for PLH, a former member got in touch with me a few months ago as he wanted to include one of my pieces on a website he worked for (I'm not sure which one but I well check). I think he mentioned some sort of live recordings floating around. I can give you his contact if you like.<br />Cheers<br />RomainThe Earslaughterershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02212895653381929613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8679256753829822948.post-83458107028773835032019-01-01T05:05:46.303+01:002019-01-01T05:05:46.303+01:00As I've said before in other comments on this ...As I've said before in other comments on this I was fortunate enough to catch Treason and P.L.H. a few times in the 80s. I was part of the peace punk scene in San Francisco/ Bay Area. In the mid to late 80s many of us were involved in No Business As Usual a sort of punk protest group. I also worked for groups like SANE and the Nuclear Weapons Freeze along with Lance Hahn (RIP) and Jon Sumrall(Econochrist). I've been trying for many years to find live recordings or practice tapes of P.L.H. and as much written information as possible. Along with show fliers and pictures I'm hoping to do a fan(zine) dedicated to this and other Bay Area peace punk bands. Sadly due to gentrification the scene here in San Francisco has declined and/or aged out. The fierce protests we were famous for are but a fainting memory. If you have anything to help with from your research please let me know Romain. You know my social media page. Peace-SeanAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15478057298950286850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8679256753829822948.post-92030259435277583662018-03-18T16:38:21.714+01:002018-03-18T16:38:21.714+01:00Dear Romain,
Yes, the book will definitely consid...Dear Romain,<br /><br />Yes, the book will definitely consider the growth of peace punk during the early 1980s. Plus, lots of other approaches to punk. It will mostly be about ideas and debates and the great conversation that punk helped stimulate during the dour times of the Reagan administration.<br /><br />All best,<br />KevinKevin Mattsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05293143149689592238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8679256753829822948.post-44574504798373499402018-02-20T19:00:10.296+01:002018-02-20T19:00:10.296+01:00Hello there,
Thanks a lot for your comment and fo...Hello there,<br /><br />Thanks a lot for your comment and for the background information. I did not make the connection between Subtle Oppression and HFI (whom I only know the tracks on the Mixed Nuts compilation Lp) but that was not so obvious and the internet was remarkably quiet about it. <br /><br />I am curious, will your book also cover the 80' peacepunk scene? If so, I am very looking forward to reading it, as I have always been obsessed with it (it shows, I suppose).<br /><br />The Atocity/Subtle Oppression Ep is actually not difficult to find and goes for a fiver on discogs (that's how I got my copy).<br /><br />Thanks again<br /><br />Cheers<br />Romain The Earslaughterershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02212895653381929613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8679256753829822948.post-36575851033604631892018-02-10T19:52:47.801+01:002018-02-10T19:52:47.801+01:00Hi there,
My name's Kevin Mattson. In these ...Hi there,<br /><br />My name's Kevin Mattson. In these circles you might have seen the recent and well-done documentary about Positive Force called "More than a Witness." I'm in the film, as the co-founder of Positive Force. This project that you're trying to figure out (not surprised) is a project I helped work on. Subtle Oppression was my band after Hate from Ignorance (HFI) broke up. Clark Kent is really Clark Chapin, who was once lead singer of HFI (one of the first peace punk bands in D.C.). We did this 7" for the Student Action organization you mention. I helped get Atrocity to do one side (and faintly recall telephone conversations with members of the band... but sheesh, a long time ago). Subtle Oppression broke up soon after this record was released (there's also a solo cassette tape version that was done by Subtle Oppression -- but what's really just me and a four-track recorder). I think Atrocity broke up around time of the record. <br /><br />If you have a copy of this, I'd love to see it again. Presently, I am an American historian who teaches at Ohio University and am presently writing a book about American punk in the 1980s -- hence have been doing searches for stuff I remember.<br /><br />There's more but I'll leave it that for now.<br /><br />My email: mattson@ohio.eduKevin Mattsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05293143149689592238noreply@blogger.com